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Session Start: Wed Apr 01 18:07:11 1998
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#Ed_Dept created on Wed Apr 01 17:09:41
<Coriolis> We want your input on whether or not EA's should be removed if they go for two weeks without voting on an open voting thingamajig.
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<Coriolis> Larry, Mike get you his votes yet?
<LarryGarfield> Interesting that you should mention this to me.
<Coriolis> Eh?  Life is interesting, except for when it's boring.
<LarryGarfield> I think I know what my votes will be.  Unfortunately, everything has happened at once for me, so I will likely be posting them Friday or Saturday.
<Coriolis> Well, I do hope you WILL get them posted Friday or Saturday.
<Coriolis> The ED has been stalled for too long waiting for votes and revisions.
<LarryGarfield> I can't speak about revisions. <g>
<Seamus^> Just tell us your votes
<Seamus^> Now
<LarryGarfield> Has anyone made any comments about the Yub nub?
<CWyers> Before you vote on the Indy:
<Seamus^> No, it's a fine ship,
<CWyers> I'm not finished yet, so I don't suppose I need your votes yet.
<CWyers> I <CWyers> Well... STF4 doesn't have an Aurora...
<CWyers> <REMcCullick> Larry: If you do take AFComm4, would you want Fleet 4 back in WeBBSight?
<CWyers> <LarryGarfield> Probably.  It would make sense, and it you are AFComm-5 you should probably report that fleet.
<CWyers> <REMcCullick> That would be fine with me.
<CWyers> <LarryGarfield> OK.
<CWyers> AGH!
<LarryGarfield> ????
<CWyers> I would like some comments about what to fill the missing two decks with...
<LarryGarfield> O_o
* CWyers hit Control C instead of Control B...
<LarryGarfield> If Colin gets me as AFComm-4, it will have the Ally.
<LarryGarfield> Dough!
<Flubbs> what the hell does ctrl b do?
<CWyers> And for some reason mIRC puts chunks of text in the clipboard.
<Flubbs> ah bold... oops
<Coriolis> I like the idea of making the empty two decks easily removed modules.
<Coriolis> You could add living quarters, science labs, storage, whatever.
<REMcCullick> LOL
<CWyers> We already have enough living quarters and science labs.
<Seamus^> paula's coming
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<Amanda-Goldsmith> ok, here
<REMcCullick> JUST LEAK confidential STF Governement Chat conversations, Colin!
<Seamus^> there! We ahve all the EAs, let's vote right here, right now
* CWyers cowers...
<LarryGarfield> Leaking stuff is SNN's job.  Oh, wait, I shouldn't have said that.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> oh did i miss something
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<Amanda-Goldsmith> gosh darn
<Captain_Cadogan> hmmm
<Coriolis> PAULA!
<Coriolis> VOTE, PLEASE!
<Amanda-Goldsmith> on what Owen
<Captain_Cadogan> has anyone made any strides toward appoving Transwarp?
<LarryGarfield> OK, based on the latest specs that I have:
<Coriolis> I voted, BJ.
<Coriolis> I don't think anybody else has.
<Captain_Cadogan> hmmm
<Coriolis> ON EVERYTHING, PAULA!
<LarryGarfield> Aurora, if it needs it, YES
<Coriolis> Didn't you get my e-mail?
<CWyers> If you won't approve Transwarp, at least post some comments, please.
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<Coriolis> That's the thing, Colin: nobody's posting ANYTHING
<Coriolis> No votes, no comments, nothing.
<Coriolis> I approve it.
<Coriolis> But it's a good ol' American Democracy.
<CWyers> And I was imploring them to do such things.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> my vote for the colorado is a 4YES
<CWyers> American Democracy? Contradiction in terms.
<CWyers> We're a republic.
<Coriolis> THEN POST IT!
<Coriolis> No shit, Colin
<Coriolis> Well, it's a good ol' American Republic.
<CWyers> Founded on the principals of the social compact and the Madisonian dilemna.
<Seamus^> K! FIRST VOTE WILL BE ON THE COLORADO, (unless you say other wise Owen)
<Amanda-Goldsmith> my vote for the TRIN spec is 4YES
<Coriolis> And, like the American Republic, it takes forever to get anything done.
<Seamus^> Hold all votes untill we are done with the colorda
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<LarryGarfield> Columbus:  I have a few minor issues, but it's almost ready.  NO, pending minor revisions.  (BTW, who is taking over the Columbus not that Jeff is gone?)
<CWyers> Why? We can multitask.
<Captain_Cadogan> no one is
<Captain_Cadogan> Jeff says that it is complete
<Coriolis> Randy is.
<Coriolis> It's not.
<CWyers> Jeff has stated that any changes are to be run through him, and he'll make them.
<Captain_Cadogan> oh
<Captain_Cadogan> well... that's what he told me
<traP> under my old proposal, the ED inherits any designs by people who are no longer members...
<traP> but, I dunno if that ever passed
<LarryGarfield> I don't think so.
<CWyers> And Jeff added the copyleft to the Columbus, if I recall.
<Seamus^> So everyone's vote for the Colordao? Paula=yes, everyone else?
<CWyers> That means it's open season.
<LarryGarfield> Colorado:  YES.
<Seamus^> k tow for Co
<Seamus^> tow=two
<Seamus^> nick your vote?
<traP> Owen voted yes on the board already, I think, for Colorado
<LarryGarfield> Independence:  My main problem is still that cloaking device.  I made a post about it, and that is as far as I am willing to go in that regard.
<Seamus^> yes he did
<LarryGarfield> Indy:  NO, pending cloak fix.
<traP> so that's three.
<CWyers> The Colubus has the copyleft on it. Open season.
* CWyers just checked.
<traP> 3/0 with 2 abstentions.  It passes.
<LarryGarfield> Nimitz:  Needs a lot of work.  NO
<CWyers> Nimitz was already passed.
<Coriolis> Good
<CWyers> It needs not be passed again.
<LarryGarfield> OK, then what just passed?
<traP> Colorado
<Captain_Cadogan> Nick... are you done with the Olympic's specs yet?
<LarryGarfield> And Ballway said he would e-mail votes to you, Owen, as soon as he has them.
<traP> Matt Agee's runabout.  Nick and Ballway abstain (they can change their votes at a later date)
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<Coriolis> Okay, Larry, thanks.
<Seamus^> k, see we just did something quicker here, than we did in 5 months
<LarryGarfield> Olympic:  I like the ship, but the specs aren't complete.  NO, pending completion.  I like the idea behind it, but I have one catch:  If it's poorly armed, how can it function as a base?
<REMcCullick> This is why I say CHAT is where it all REALLY happenes
<Captain_Cadogan> I like it's base abilities
<LarryGarfield> I also have a problem with the holocrew, but I made a post about the darwin regarding that.  Same proposal for the Olmpic.
<Seamus^> Vahhela voytes please
<LarryGarfield> And I like the base idea too, I'm just concerned that there is a different standard which should be closed up.
<Captain_Cadogan> oh
<traP> It's not meant to serve as a defensive outpost.  You'd need an escort for the base, to handle some defence.. (a few Yub Yub's, traf's, nimitz, etc.
<LarryGarfield> Yub nub:  YES.  (Duh!)
<Captain_Cadogan> hehehe
<Seamus^> k, Yub Nub? Votes Larry=yes
<Seamus^> anyone else please
<LarryGarfield> I have a few touches to make to the Yub nub, but nothing that would change the ship.  Mostly stylistic.
<LarryGarfield> Does anyone remember the name of the planet I mention?
<Captain_Cadogan> brb
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<traP> Paula?  Nick?  Owen?  Yub Nub is now on the table. <g>
<Coriolis> I voted yea on the Yub Nub.
<Coriolis> So far, we've only voted on the Colorado and Yub Nub, right?
<traP> ok, that's 2-0
<Seamus^> yes
<traP> yes, Colorado has passed.
<LarryGarfield> I've cast votes for a couple of ships.
<Seamus^> Paula?
<Seamus^> Nick?
<traP> well, lets repeat them here so there's no confusion.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> yes
<Amanda-Goldsmith> checking my notes
<LarryGarfield> I'll be back.  I need to get some work done for WS and for school.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> wait please
<traP> was that a yes on the Yub Nub, Paula?
<Amanda-Goldsmith> not yet
<Seamus^> k, 3-0, the Yub Nub is passed
<LarryGarfield> Yub nub.  Not a capital N.
<LarryGarfield> Yeah!
<Amanda-Goldsmith> no Seamus
<traP> No, not yet, Paula said not yet.
<Seamus^> sorry
<Amanda-Goldsmith> not passed
<LarryGarfield> Oops!
<traP> I asked her to clarify.  It's still at 2-0-3
<Seamus^> NICK!
<LarryGarfield> We're waiting on Nick, Mike, and Paula, right?
<traP> correct, Larry
<Seamus^> k, while we are waiting, Valhalla? Votes. http://www.star-fleet.com/ed/valhalla/
<Coriolis> Although, Larry, I'd like it to get three votes without you voting.
<traP> wait, lets deal with 1 at a time, Seamus.  Valhalla will be next
<LarryGarfield> OK.
<Seamus^> k
<traP> Nick, do you have a vote on Yub nub yet?
<Coriolis> I abstained from voting on the Phoenix, and I strongly recommend all EA's do the same for their ship classes
<LarryGarfield> BB
<Amanda-Goldsmith> on the indy i have a few comments
<Amanda-Goldsmith> but colin is gone
<traP> we're dealing with Yub nub right now.. Colin said Indy's not finished yet.
<Seamus^> Paula, focus on the Yub nub
<Amanda-Goldsmith> so the indy will not get my vote
<Seamus^> k
<Amanda-Goldsmith> k
<Coriolis> PAULA: Yub Nub: yea or nea?
<Coriolis> nay
<LarryGarfield> Was that a correction or a vote?
<Coriolis> Correction
<traP> no, he was correcting nea to nay as an option
<Coriolis> My vote for the Yub Nub is yea
<LarryGarfield> Good.
<Coriolis> Nick, vote?
<Coriolis> Paula, vote?
<Amanda-Goldsmith> move on to something else for now
<Amanda-Goldsmith> thanks
* REMcCullick still disagrees with voting as a general policy.
<Coriolis> So do I, Randy, but Aaron wants his democracy.
<Coriolis> Valhalla was the next proposal:
<Coriolis> I vote yea
<Amanda-Goldsmith> dont have the val done yet
<Amanda-Goldsmith> sorry
<LarryGarfield> I haven't reviewed the Valhalla yet.
<LarryGarfield> I'll get back to you.
<traP> Ok.. lets do this.. What designs are you voting yes on, Paula?
<Seamus^>  http://www.star-fleet.com/ed/valhalla/
<traP> Same question to Nick and Owen, and Larry when he returns.
<Coriolis> My yea votes:
<Coriolis> Colorado, Nimitz, Indy, Aurora, Trin, Yub Nub, Valhalla.
<Seamus^> k, Paula what ship do you have done, that you are willing to vote on?
<Coriolis> My nay votes: Columbus, Olympic, Terra Nova
<Amanda-Goldsmith> 4yes for Colorado and Trin
<LarryGarfield> That's Yub nub.
<Coriolis> All others were unavailable at the time I ran through and made these votes.
<Coriolis> Anybody know if Nick's paying attention
<Coriolis> ?
<traP> ok
* LarryGarfield slaps Flubbs around a bit with a large trout
<Seamus^> So let's vote on the Trin
<traP> Trin requires one more vote for passage.  Col has already passed.
<Seamus^> brb
<traP> er.. Colorado, rather than Columbus.. damn similar names
<Flubbs> I VOTE YES
<traP> you can't vote yes on your own design, Nick.  <g>  But what other designs do you vote yes on?
<LarryGarfield> I still don't like the multi-stream core.  I do like the multi-layered shields.
<Coriolis> One vote other than Nick's.
<LarryGarfield> Another question:  Do PhoTorps and QTorps use the same launcer or different launchers?  We should make a blanket decision.
<Coriolis> Torp tube question:
<Coriolis> I say they're universal
<ZCT> Is that the time?
<LarryGarfield> Question:  After approval, the specs are still subject to minor revisions, da?
<ZCT> Time to leave
<ZCT> Bye
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<traP> yes, I think so.
<Coriolis> Oui, Larry
<LarryGarfield> Has ST ever made a statement?
<traP> based on the scene in ST II, I think they can all use the same launcher (probes, and all torps)
<traP> as long as they're roughly the same size
<Coriolis> It was general consensus, when I proposed the Phoenix class have a universal torpedo tube system, that the tubes were universal to begin with.
<LarryGarfield> OK.  Then let's say they all use the same casing, just different warheads.
<Coriolis> How do torp tubes work?
<Coriolis> Sounds good, Larry.
<LarryGarfield> I HAVE to go do homework.
<Coriolis> Paula, dissenting?
<traP> remember when they shot Spock's body into the Genesis planet?
<Coriolis> I have to go warm up for saxophone.
<traP> THat's the scene I'm refering to.
<traP> Any other votes from Larry or Nick?
<Amanda-Goldsmith> bye guys, have fun
<REMcCullick> They use gas to eject the tube into space.
<Coriolis> Paula, do you agree that torpedo tubes are universal?
<REMcCullick> er, torp
<Amanda-Goldsmith> yes
<LarryGarfield> My votes so far:  Colorado, YES.  Indy, NO, pending Cloaking fix.  Olympic:  NO, pending completion, although I like the ship.  Columbus:  Only minor changes, which can be fixed later, most likely.  YES
<Amanda-Goldsmith> one tube for all
<Coriolis> Good.
<Coriolis> That's a quorum.
<Cadogan-Away> Owen, why are you nay on the OIy? because it's incomplete
<Cadogan-Away> hmmm...
<LarryGarfield> I like the Olympic, but it's incomplete.
<LarryGarfield> Bye.
<Cadogan-Away> I was thinking of having different tubes on the Futura
<Coriolis> Recorded
<Coriolis> Yeah, pretty much, BJ
<Cadogan-Away> for different torps
<Coriolis> BJ: The Futura's already pretty small.  3 torp tubes would be a LOT.
<traP> Ok.. we suceeded in very little then, pending Ballway's votes. <g>
<Coriolis> Bye, Larry!
<Coriolis> Larry, I take it your vote on the Phoenix is a nay?
<Cadogan-Away> c'est vrai
<Coriolis> Nah, we actually passed a class, and decided on a pressing issue.
<Cadogan-Away> cya Larry!
<traP> yes, but thats one down, and a gazillion to go <g>
<Coriolis> Larry: no vote on the Trin?
<Amanda-Goldsmith> i would not say for naught, Mike.  Many of the designers have to fix specs before votes
<Coriolis> As I count it, that's only 15 specs left.
<Cadogan-Away> ok... I'll reduce tubes then
<Coriolis> Just one, right in the center.
<Cadogan-Away> what about TW?
<Cadogan-Away> has anyone voted?
<Coriolis> You could paint a leech mouth around it.<G>
<Cadogan-Away> besides Owen
<Cadogan-Away> ?
<Coriolis> I voted yea on TW.
<traP> no one votes yes on the Aurora, except Aaron's biggest target? <g>
<Cadogan-Away> I knoew
<Cadogan-Away> err... know
<Cadogan-Away> I like the Aurora
<Cadogan-Away> I hope it gets passed
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<Coriolis> Yep, Mike.
<Coriolis> Ain't life funky?
<traP> Ok, here are the results, pending Nicks and Ballway's votes
<Captain_Cadogan> Paula, Larry, Nick? any votes for transwarp?
<LarryGarfield> Nay on TW.
<Captain_Cadogan> hmmm
<Amanda-Goldsmith> i did not have any problems with the aurora
<Captain_Cadogan> why don't you like it?
<Amanda-Goldsmith> just a few typo things that needs to be fixed
<Coriolis> Paula: is that a yes vote for the Aurora?
<traP> Colo - passes.   Nim - needs 2,  Ind - needs 2, Au - needs 2, Trin - needs 1, Yub nub - needs 2, Valhalla, needs 2, Columbus, needs 2
<REMcCullick> I didn't think the Nimitz was on the voting list.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> like what power source it is using and how many decks and if it has shuttles
<Captain_Cadogan> Larry... why don't you like TW?
<traP> I'm just counting what's on the list of votes.
<Coriolis> Randy, in fairness, all classes are going to pass the same requirements.
<Captain_Cadogan> Paula? Nick? have you voted for TW yet?
<Amanda-Goldsmith> is that the one that Colin suggested
<Captain_Cadogan> Owen... I believe that the DM should be the tie-breaker in voting...
<Captain_Cadogan> yes
<Coriolis> But we already have 5 voters.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> not the one about the missles?
<Coriolis> There should, conceivably, be no ties.
<Captain_Cadogan> who's the fifth???
<Coriolis> No, the one about Trans Warp.
<Coriolis> Moi, Larry, Paula, Nick, Ballway.
<Captain_Cadogan> oh... Ballway
<Coriolis> Ballway will, eventually, serve as the tie breaker.
<Captain_Cadogan> forgot about him
<REMcCullick> Owen, the Nimitz was passed in '96! What you are saying is that all approved specs are unapproved every time we get a new EDir???!!!???
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<Amanda-Goldsmith> then were is the written words
<Amanda-Goldsmith> not in ed page
<Coriolis> No, Randy, what I am saying is that nobody told me what specs had been approved.
<Captain_Cadogan> Nick... any comments on Transwarp?
<REMcCullick> It was in SNN update!
<Coriolis> Nobody told me anything about what had been done by previous EDirs./
<Coriolis> I intend to leave a damned good record of my actions and of everybody's reasonings in voting for or against a ship.
<Coriolis> But nobody told me anything.
<Coriolis> I made the decision to vote on all ship specs in use or proposed.
<Coriolis> Then, and ONLY then, did Aaron say, "WHAT?  We already approved that!"
<Coriolis> Despite the fact that, the dozen times I e-mailed him saying, "Aaron, you were around when other EDirs were in charge, can you give me any information as to what they accomplished?" I got no response.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> ok now you all have gotten Owen off on a trantum
<Amanda-Goldsmith> who started that??
<REMcCullick> I did...and I'm about to make a bigger one.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> where is the transwarp thingie posted
<Coriolis> Not a tantrum, just an explanation of my actions and reasoning.
<Coriolis> Simply put: my plea is a very valid plea of ignorance.
<Captain_Cadogan> in the ED ship, Paula
<Amanda-Goldsmith> we must be lagged very baddly
<Amanda-Goldsmith> baddly=badly
<Amanda-Goldsmith> someone ping me?
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<Coriolis> So, as I have it the current tally of votes is:
<Coriolis> Colorado: Owen, Paula, Larry 'Yea', no 'nay'
<Amanda-Goldsmith> Thanks randy
<Coriolis> Phoenix: Owen abstains
<Coriolis> Columbus: Larry 'yea', Owen 'nay'
<Coriolis> Nimitz: Owen 'yea'
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<Coriolis> Indy: Owen 'yea', Larry 'nay'
<Amanda-Goldsmith> Owen you have that wrong
<Coriolis> Aurora: Owen 'yea'
<Coriolis> What do I have wrong?
<Coriolis> Darwin: Withdrawn (Mike, if you could re-propose it por favor...)
<Amanda-Goldsmith> I vote YEA for Colorado
<Coriolis> Novosibirsk: Not on the server
<Coriolis> Paula, I have you down as voting 'Yea' (That's what the Owen, Paula, Larry 'Yea') thing means
<Coriolis> Fulton: No votes
* Seamus^ si back, what ships are approved?
<Coriolis> Prometheus: Why bother?
<Coriolis> OP42: What's the website?
<Coriolis> Valhalla: Owen 'yea'
<Coriolis> Transwarp: Owen 'yea', Paula 'nay'
<Coriolis> Universal Torpedo Tubes: Owen, Larry, Paula 'yea'
<traP> just Colorado
<Captain_Cadogan> Paula opposed TW???
<traP> Trin is one vote away however
<Amanda-Goldsmith> is Randy going to post the TW on the ED board
<Captain_Cadogan> it's posted Paula!
<Seamus^> op me
<Captain_Cadogan> and Colin posted it... not Randy
<Amanda-Goldsmith> no it is not
<Captain_Cadogan> you have to backdate
<Amanda-Goldsmith> i mean permanatly
<Captain_Cadogan> oh
<Amanda-Goldsmith> darn
<Amanda-Goldsmith> it heck
<Captain_Cadogan> I'll give you the proposal!
<Captain_Cadogan> can I DCC it to you?
<Amanda-Goldsmith> yes
<Captain_Cadogan> ok
<Amanda-Goldsmith> now please
<Seamus^> B.J could you DCC it to me too, thankx
<Captain_Cadogan> ok
<Seamus^> op me
<Seamus^> did anyone vote on the Trin?
<REMcCullick> Remove the Nimitz from the votng register, please.
* traP hmms.
<Seamus^> why?
<Coriolis> I guess Paula didn't vote against it.
<traP> Interesting.. I am using first letter abbreviations for the voters.. so I got L, M, N, O, and P
<Coriolis> (my voting tabulations are color-coded.  It could have been LArry who voted against TW)
<Captain_Cadogan> it was
<traP> I think it was Larry who voted no
<Captain_Cadogan> unfortunately
<Coriolis> Wow.  That's freaky.
<Coriolis> All you need are Paula's and Nick's votes.
<Captain_Cadogan> yeha
<Captain_Cadogan> err... yeah
<Captain_Cadogan> Nick... do you need the proposal?
<Amanda-Goldsmith> after i read it i will vote on it.  so wait a sec
<REMcCullick> Remove the Nimitz from the votng register, please.
<Captain_Cadogan> ok
<Coriolis> Randy, are you really afraid it'll get voted down?
<Seamus^> If the designer thinks it does not need to be voted upon again, then it is his decision
<REMcCullick> No. I insist that v1 on the Nimitz was approved in '96. As it is in the middle of being updated, I refuse to allow voting on it until v2 is finished.
* traP watches the backstage ploy and counterploy, eating popcorn.
<Coriolis> Okay.  Then we will wait until v2 to vote.
<Seamus^> Terra Nova?
<REMcCullick> I believe it's at about v1.6 at the moment.
<traP> Terra Nova right now is at 0-1-4
<traP> who voted no on it?  Owen or Larry?
<Captain_Cadogan> Nick votes yes for Transwarp... right Nick?
<Amanda-Goldsmith> the valhalla seems to be a very large runabout
<Amanda-Goldsmith> why?
<Seamus^> no not really
<traP> basically, yes.  I suggested we get a new runabout class, and both Matt and Nathan proposed versions.
<Flubbs> transwarp yes
<Amanda-Goldsmith> it is currently capable of holding 15 crewmembers
<traP> Both are excellent, and there's no reason we can't use both.
<traP> transwarp is now at 2-1-2
<Captain_Cadogan> TW needs one more vote, right?
<traP> correct
<Captain_Cadogan> ah... ok
<REMcCullick> So, now that the Nimitz debate is over, Mike remove it from the voting register.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> Which should be larger a shuttlecraft or a runabout
* Captain_Cadogan looks expectantly at Paula =)
<Coriolis> Ballway or Paula.
<Captain_Cadogan> I know
<Coriolis> Guys, I gotta go to a sax lesson.
<Coriolis> Somebody log this all for me, and keep a count of who votes for and against everything.
<Captain_Cadogan> but I'm hoping Paula will help me out...
<Captain_Cadogan> cya Owen!
* traP nods.  I put an asterix by it (same as the Indy and Oly, denoting design not yet finished.)
<Coriolis> And remember: I RECOMMEND designers not vote on their specs.
<REMcCullick> I log EVERYTHING.
<traP> make that require, Owen.
<Seamus^> BYe OWEN, SEE i TOLD YOU THIS COULD WORK
* traP grins
<Coriolis> Lastly, Paula, what's the WWW addy for the OP42 specs?
<Coriolis> Okay, Mike: No designer can vote on his own specs.
<Coriolis> Yeah, but it only worked because of luck, Seamus.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> dont have one yet Owen
<REMcCullick> Owen: In that case case can the DM vote to keep a 5 vote system?
<Captain_Cadogan> Ballway has the 5th vote
<Captain_Cadogan> already
<traP> he means if the designer is in, allow the DM to have the 5th vote instead
<Captain_Cadogan> oh
<traP> i.e. Randy gets to vote (instead of Owen) on Phoenix
<Coriolis> Yeah, sounds like a good idea.
<Captain_Cadogan> ah
<Captain_Cadogan> ok
<Coriolis> I'm not sure I want Randy voting on my Phoenix, though.<G>
<traP> heh heh
<Captain_Cadogan> well, Paula... gotten a chance to read the proposal yet?
<Coriolis> But, for now, the Phoenix is also in the process of being updated.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> working
<Coriolis> So it shouldn't be voted on unless it's getting approved.
<Captain_Cadogan> ok
<Amanda-Goldsmith> working on it
<Captain_Cadogan> could you wait until Paula votes before you leave Owen?
<Captain_Cadogan> ok
<traP> ok then, Randy, you got a series of votes to make <g>  Yub nub, Trinitron, Olympic(*), Phoenix, and.. I think that's it for now.
<Seamus^> OP me please
<REMcCullick> I'll look and review. Then i'll vote on the board.
<Coriolis> Yeah, BJ, I can wait about five minutes.
<Amanda-Goldsmith> YES FOR TW
<Captain_Cadogan> yes!!!
<Amanda-Goldsmith> ok happy now
<Captain_Cadogan> thank you!
<Captain_Cadogan> yeah!
* traP nods
* Captain_Cadogan hugs Paula =)
<Seamus^> Owen, see I am right most of the time, and luck of the Irish
<Seamus^> <g>
<traP> ok, TW passes 3-1-1
<REMcCullick> Alright. I'm due at AOL in under an hour, so I'll have to go.
<Coriolis> Drinks on BJ!
<Captain_Cadogan> wait till Colin hears about this!
<Captain_Cadogan> hehe
<Coriolis> He'll wet himself.<G>
<Coriolis> BJ, I do have one request:
<Captain_Cadogan> Project Futura gets the green light!
<Captain_Cadogan> production underway...
<Captain_Cadogan> ok Owen... what is it?
<traP> ok, talk to you later, Randy
<Captain_Cadogan> cya Randy!
<Amanda-Goldsmith> bye randy
<Captain_Cadogan> hehe
<Seamus^> Bye Randy
<Coriolis> The TW proposal be allowed to be implemented and adjusted to be used on specs that are in want of it (e.g my Phoenix class, since Randy's yet to come up with a way to make a subspace gate for me)
<Coriolis> With you as a consultant in all matters involving it.
<REMcCullick> BJ: Have colin send me a copy of the approve TW proposal for the ED Tech Page.
<traP> TW will be a prototype with Futura.. after the GMs prove it doesn't work, we can then approve it for refits to existing classes.
<REMcCullick> cya!
* traP grins
<Captain_Cadogan> hmmm... let's wait until the Futura "tests" it In Character...
<Captain_Cadogan> heh
<Coriolis> Okay
<REMcCullick> Owen: You said yopu were going to were going to drop the Subspace Drive idea.
<Captain_Cadogan> after the Futura successfully proves Transwarp works in the field then I'll let others use it
<Seamus^> k, can we vote on the Terra Nova, even though I knoqw the results, I jsut want to know, what is wrong with it
<Coriolis> Yeah, Randy, but I changed my mind after I got sick of the quantum physics BS.
<Coriolis> And, mostly, I was waiting for the TW to get approved.<G>
<Captain_Cadogan> heh
<Coriolis> I figured it out, though:
<Coriolis> The way I was working to get the SSD working is actually a pretty fair description of how warp works, according to the ST Ency and ST Tech Manual
<REMcCullick> Oh.....I'm still going to work to get the WME apporoved, though.
<REMcCullick> Not using a Static Warp Bubble.
<Coriolis> If you do, Randy... <blinks eyes>
<Coriolis> No, the assymetrical warp bubble opens the subspace gate, like I wanted to do with the artificial subspace of the Static Warp Bubble, and that's how it travels.
<Coriolis> Which is what the Ency sounds like it's describing, and the Manual dances around with techno babble.
<Captain_Cadogan> gotta go... thanks again for voting, finally!
<Amanda-Goldsmith> bye BJ
<REMcCullick> Lemme think on that...bye!
<Captain_Cadogan> cya Paula... thanks again!
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<Seamus^> k, can we vote on the Terra Nova, even though I know the results, I just want to know, what is wrong with it...
<Coriolis> Too empty.
<Coriolis> B-bye!
<Captain_Cadogan> bye!
<Seamus^> don't you have to go?
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<Seamus^> bye
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