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Proposal to Update the character Species requirement section of FCOMM

Posted April 16, 2020, 10:02 p.m. by Commodore Calé Reilly (STF Surgeon General / FComm, Foremost Fleet) (Calé Reilly)

Posted by Russell Watt (Public Nuisance for Life) in Proposal to Update the character Species requirement section of FCOMM

Posted by Commodore Calé Reilly (STF Surgeon General / FComm, Foremost Fleet) in Proposal to Update the character Species requirement section of FCOMM

Posted by Vice Admiral Daniel Lerner (Personnel Director, EGO) in Proposal to Update the character Species requirement section of FCOMM
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Problem: At the moment the restrictions of characters as outlined in FCOMM holds two issues as I see it. The first is that the list of species is somewhat outdated and restrictive and the second is that in various places around the club these rules are not being followed fully.

FCOMM states the following regarding character guidelines: (People familiar with FCOMM please feel free to skim read)

*“Player Characters shall follow these guidelines:

Canon Federation member species are acceptable. Examples of Canon Federation member species include Humans, Vulcans, Trill, Andorians, and Betazoids.

Canon Allied species are discouraged, and permitted only in special circumstances with the prior consent of the CO. Examples of Canon Allied species include Klingons.

Canon Neutral or Hostile species are forbidden. Examples of Canon Neutral or Hostile species include Romulans, Ferengi, Cardassians, Borg, and Breen.

Custom Federation member species are discouraged, and permitted only in special circumstances with the prior consent of the CO. The character and species must have an adequate and believable back-story that explains why the character is in Starfleet and why the species is a Federation member or ally. If the custom character species is created by someone other than the player, the player must have the creator’s permission to play that character species. If the creator cannot be reached, the species may only be played if the information given about it is publically accessible and not restricted.

Custom allied, neutral, or hostile species are forbidden.

“God moding” or “super” characters are strictly forbidden. Examples of “God-moding” or “Super” characters include Borg, Species 8472, Q, and Changelings.

Mixed-species characters must be a believable mix, and of no more than three (3) species.”*

Now we generally accept that Klingons are a species that has been and would be accepted into starfleet as we have canon examples of this, it isn’t a huge push of the imagination to say that by the club year we are currently in that Klingons would be generally accepted? We certainly have enough people playing them and playing them well with believable back stories and reasons for joint starfleet.

In terms of those species banned “Canon Neutral or Hostile species are forbidden. Examples of Canon Neutral or Hostile species include Romulans, Ferengi, Cardassians, Borg, and Breen.” I can understand keeping the restrictions on both Borg and Breen because…well Borg and Breen. But what about ex borg? Considering we have examples of that in canon?

In terms of Ferengi we know Nog served and though he had to jump through hoops to get the chance to do it could be arguable that others may follow his example.

Assuming a Cardassian or Romulan could demonstrate the same level of integrity and commitment as Nog, and win over a sufficiently respectable Starfleet officer for a note of support, they could probably gain admission to the academy.

In the Beta canon, Cardassians joined the Khitomer Accords and in the Titan book series there is examples of Cardassian members joining of Starfleet. I know we don’t normally go with beta canon or novels but I’m just making the point that other writers have seen that happen and adjusted accordingly. As we are entering a phase we’re we literally run out of show to use and with the new shows giving us food for thought it seems more and more likely that our current list is out of date. FCOMM was written in 2005, and last updated in 2011 which is 9 years ago. A lot has changed in the last 9 years. We as a club have changed and I am the so sure these restrictions are necessarily still in the best interests of the writers and creativity of the club.

FCOMM also says: *“The decision regarding any character type rests with the Commanding Officer of the ship where the character will be played. Any dispute between a player and a CO will be moderated and decided upon by the appropriate Fleet Commander. In the event that the CO is also the Fleet Commander, the dispute will be moderated by the Assistant Fleet Commander. The decision by the Fleet Commander or Assistant Fleet Commander shall be considered final.

In the special circumstance where it is felt a player can adequately and believably play a forbidden character species, the player may do so with the consent of the Commanding Officer and the related Fleet Commander. In the event that the CO is also the Fleet Commander, the approval of the Assistant Fleet Commander is required. This consent may be removed if the player does not maintain the adequate and believable requirement. In both cases, any decision made is final and not appealable.”*

We don’t often follow this rule and as each term passes, do we have to seek permission each time? What if a player has been on a ship a while with permission but not fcomm permission do they then need to alter or change that character? There is a lot of grey area here that could be cleared up.

Proposal:

I propose we alter this part of FCOMM to read

“Player Characters shall follow these guidelines:

Federation member and Allied species are acceptable. Examples of Federation member and Allied species include Humans, Vulcans, Trill, Andorians,Betazoids and Klingons.

Neutral or Normally Hostile species are permitted only in special circumstances with the prior consent of the CO. Examples of Neutral or Normally Hostile species include, Ferengi, Cardassians, and Romulan.

Godlike entities,”super” characters or outright hostile species are strictly forbidden. Examples of these characters include, Species 8472, Q, and Changelings. Breen and Borg. (EX Borg would be considered on a player by player basis with consent from the CO and if felt a player can adequately and believably play the character in question.)

Custom Federation member species are permitted with the prior consent of the CO. The character and species must have an adequate and believable back-story that explains why the character is in Starfleet and why the species is a Federation member or ally. If the custom character species is created by someone other than the player, the player must have the creator’s permission to play that character species. If the creator cannot be reached, the species may only be played if the information given about it is publically accessible and not restricted.

Mixed-species characters must be a believable mix with adequate backstory. (Removing the number restriction here because depending in the backstory this might be again restrictive, however it give autonomy to command teams to make a decision based on both plausibility and the writer in question being able to handle it)

The decision regarding any character type rests with the Commanding Officer of the ship where the character will be played. Any dispute between a player and a CO will be moderated and decided upon by the appropriate Fleet Commander. In the event that the CO is also the Fleet Commander, the dispute will be moderated by the Assistant Fleet Commander. The decision by the Fleet Commander or Assistant Fleet Commander shall be considered final.

Consent to play Neutral and Normally Hostile species, Custom species or EX Borg may be removed if the player does not maintain the adequate and believable requirement.”

Thoughts?

Calé

I think Calé is on to something here. I don’t currently have time to expound, however I agree with this.

-Dave Eads

To add my 3 cents: As Cale mentioned, many players (myself included) play Klingons (though mine is special case, it still counts in my mind). Also, Bajorans should be noted to be in the same category. We have lots of Bajoran characters, but as noted in FCOMM as it stands, it’s “discouraged” yet I’ve never had anyone stop me when I proposed a Bajoran character.

I also agree with the Romulan sentiment, that if a Romulan could show said intergrity–in fact, this is supported briefly in TNG Season 7.–they’d be allowed into Starfleet.

Capybara

Oops I knew there was a race I forgot to add in there! Sorry!

Calé

As someone who has played a Romulan pc constantly from 2009 on i’ll say they should be allowed on a case by case basis. There’s strong enough evidence that refugees in some form at least would serve or be a part of Starfleet. And back in 2009 the way I got around having her serving was by an officer exchange program similar to what we saw with riker in tng with the klingons. There’s also been not just me but others who’ve also under guidance done refugees, in some form to great success.

Robert Archer

I like the proposal. The only race that I ever played that falls under this are Bajorans (e.g. my current CMO on the Challenger is Bajoran). Bajor was in the process of becoming a member of the Federation and continued that process after the Dominion War was over. So in my head canon I always assumed that between 2375 and 2396 they became members. After all, 20 years would be a long time to still be in that process. So personally I would not add them to the list of case-by-case species.

As for Romulans, especially with Picard and there being lots of Romulan refugees all over Federation space, I don’t see why they couldn’t join Starfleet if they have plausible backstory. Not to mention that it says in the prequel novel (which - as I understand it - is considered canon) it’s mentioned that after living for 5 years (I think, I might be wrong on the exact amount of years, but I can’t check as I don’t have my copy of the book at the moment) within Federation space that person becomes a citizen of the Federation. And isn’t every citizen of the Federation able to apply at the Academy?

Anyway, just my two pence :)

~Silke

Silke is correct. The book states that the arrangement with romulans settled on federation worlds was thar in five years they could opt to become citizens if they wished.

-Dave

I think this is a sound recommendation. Id like to see some more of the above mentioned races making appearances as players.

James

I would still say that an allied species should require CO permission first. I know a lot of people love to play Klingons, or half-Klingons, or whatever. But in Star Trek canon, there are only two examples I can think of Klingons in Starfleet or trying to enter Starfleet: a full Klingon raised by adoptive human parents, and a half-Klingon raised by her human father. Allied species have on occasion entered Starfleet with certain recommendations, etc. (i.e. Nog in DS9) - but I think this just lends itself to showing it’s out of the ordinary. A CO should be satisfied that a believable backstory exists for why a non-Federation member is in Starfleet, and the CO can say no if that backstory is not believable.

Wouldn’t an ex-borg be a custom species? The player is essentially designing from scratch what “powers” (for lack of a better term) the ex-drone has. Instead of treating an ex-drone as a separate category, I would say: “Any character that has sufficient alterations as to have significant advantages or divergence from the character’s native species shall be considered a ‘custom species’. The character must have an adequate and believable backstory, must not be over-powered, and prior CO consent is required. An example requiring prior CO consent is a former Borg drone.” (In the last year, as PDir I’ve had to deal with multiple new players wanting to play human character with special characteristics, such as the ability to time travel, the ability to produce any weapon from the cybernetic implants, etc., etc. - it doesn’t just have to be an ex-drone.)

In fact, I would clarify that the custom species requirement must not only have the species/character believable, but it also not be “over-powered” (which is determined by the ship CO).

I think we should clarify the hybrid section a lot more. First, a lot new members love to create hybrids they see on TV, and are never asked to provide a “believable backstory” - human/vulcan, human/betazoid, human/klingon (I personally don’t like that one becoming common, but I know I’m conservative), and so on. As PDir, if I’m approving a new application, I’m never going to ask the new member for a believable backstory before I place them with that character. But a CO should be allowed to not consent to a three-or-more species hybrids without a believable backstory. So I think we should have that distinguished in the proposal.

Daniel

Perhaps I should say that I don’t think it’s helpful in this thread to decide what species (i.e. Romulans) can be in the Academy, or what Starfleets rules are. That’s not the point of this bylaw, and frankly the more examples we can remove from the bylaw, the better. All we need to do with this bylaw is say: (1) what category can a player be allowed to play without requiring CO consent ever, (2) what category requires a CO’s consent, (3) what factors should a CO use for custom species, and (4) what is the appeal process.

I might re-word all of it as follows:

Player Characters may be subject to the following restrictions:

-Canon Federation member species are always allowed.

-Canon allied species are allowed with a believable backstory as to why the character is in Starfleet, which can be reviewed by the ship’s CO.

-Canon neutral and hostile species and custom species must have prior approval of the ship’s CO.

-For the purpose of this guideline, any character that has sufficient alterations as to have significant advantages or divergence from the character’s native species shall be considered a ‘custom species’. An example is a former Borg drone.

-For the purpose of this guideline, any hybrid character where one of the species is not a canon Federation member, the applicable guideline to the non-Federation member species applies. In addition, for the purpose of this guideline, any hybrid character of three or more species shall be considered a ‘custom species’.

-A CO may only allow a custom species if the species and character have an adequate and believable backstory and is not over-powered for RPG purposes (as determined by the CO, in consultation with the ship’s gamemaster). If the custom species is created by someone other than the player, the player must have the creator’s permission to play that character species. If the creator cannot be reached, the species may only be played if the information given about it is publicly accessible and not restricted.

-Godlike entities, “super” characters or outright hostile species are strictly forbidden. This includes, but is not limited to, Species 8472, Q, Changelings, and assimilated Borg drones.

The ship’s CO shall decide what above category a player’s character falls into. Canon is based on Star Trek television series and movies.

The decision regarding any character type rests with the Commanding Officer of the ship where the character will be played. Any dispute between a player and a CO will be moderated and decided upon by the appropriate Fleet Commander. In the event that the CO is also the Fleet Commander, the dispute will be moderated by the Assistant Fleet Commander. The decision by the Fleet Commander or Assistant Fleet Commander shall be considered final.

As you can see, other than (a) including an example about alterations that makes a character become “custom” and a non-exhaustive list of strictly forbidden species, I’ve basically removed all examples, and simplified the approach somewhat.

Daniel

I like the simplified wording you used Dan. I think that covers what I was trying to suggest much more succinctly. Thank you ^_^

Cale

I also like it. I did have a question -

So what happens if CO changes and a character approved as ok by former CO is suddenly deemed not ok by new CO?

Russell

I would assume it should be what is supposed to be happening currently. That COs and players discuss the character and come to an agreement and is the New CO says no then it follows the chain of command.

That’s why I asked that question in my initial post because I don’t think we are following this procedure at all (happy to be corrected if people are doing this) so in many regards if we aren’t following it anyway it seems like either we have to enforce the rules we have which are personally to me outdated in terms of characters or change it to allow for the current norm of characters etc to allow people to play them as they have been without the risk.

Cale


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