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SS Bonaventure

Posted May 12, 2020, 8:16 p.m. by Travis Good

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Hello:

I am the new XO of the SS Bonaventure and could not find out why it is called “SS” instead of “USS”? I thought SS meant Space Station but the Bonnie is a ship. I have looked at the specs and history and found nothing. Can you please assist me? Plus I asked the Captain and she did not know. Thank you.

Travis Good
Commander, XO
SS Bonaventure

Hey Travis,

Thanks for pointing it out - that was my understanding too.

I’ve looked at the history and charter, including Edict 52, where it was comissioned as the USS Bonnaventure but the charter states the SS Bonnaventure. So, it could merely be an error somewhere, but there are other reasons that I have also been told including that it could be something to be resolved by TECH. It could also be something to do with the era, as it’s a pre-federation ship. Those are the possibilities I’ve got from talking to other members of the club, as I wasn’t here myself when it happened but will try and find out if this was in error or deliberate, and the reasons why if the latter is the case.

Ben Simons
Dockmaster
Engineering Department

From what I understand it is due to the era being its an Enterprise era ship from my time as edir a few years back the USS in the edict to me has always been a mistake from force of habits of USS for our TNG era ships. Nick can correct me though obviously.

Robert Archer

From the 2004 entry for the Bonnie in my Ship Histories project ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aAVfskiRdXlBq-mOXvIUycIThf7Xz03tRkhNfAvwWAk/edit?usp=sharing ):

Although the ship was originally commissioned as the USS Bonaventure, the ship started calling itself the SS Bonaventure at some point after this time, although there was no formal edict at the time changing the ship’s name.

In actual canon, in ST:ENT, the ship never used “USS” before the name. From Memory-Alpha ( https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS ): Shortly before Star Trek: Enterprise began its initial airing, Rick Berman implied that Enterprise NX-01 was purposefully without the “USS” prefix because it wasn’t a Federation starship. (Star Trek: Communicator issue 134, p. 13) The use of “USS” by Starfleet before the formation of the Federation was only seen on a computer graphic in the Enterprise episode “Divergence”. This graphic had both the Enterprise and the Columbia designated with the USS prefix, which may have been a mistake on the part of the graphics designers, as neither ships’ hull designation used “USS”.

Daniel

The SS Stands for Star Ship in this case, it was used on the ship itself after the edict originally commissioning her because it was agreed in the era that USS wouldn’t be used necessarily and there was grey area on what starfleet would look like etc, it was debated if it should be UFP Bonaventure but decided that Star Ship Bonaventure was the one that made most sense despite the fact the edict stated USS.

The first time it is used in a command edict is where the Bonnie was originally decommissioned found here https://www.star-fleet.com/prez/edicts/herr/#e16 And then again when the charter was redone and the points of the edict previously shown were met, found here https://www.star-fleet.com/prez/edicts/herr/#e34.

So technically the USS Bonaventure was decommissioned and the SS Boneventure was commissioned in its place.

Also it is mentioned in the latest charter update https://www.star-fleet.com/prez/edicts/dedul/#e7
In the charter change log for information that ” Reference to USS Bonaventure, in the last paragraph, changed to reflect the ships name of the true name of the ship, SS Bonaventure, instead.”

SS is the correct nomenclature based on the charter and ship history.

Cale

Thank you all very much. I just want to role play correctly and now I can do it better. Again, thank you.

Travis


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